tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post2165929834683345760..comments2023-09-30T08:54:09.502-04:00Comments on A Catholic Mother's Thoughts: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-29372914372749212742009-02-14T00:07:00.000-05:002009-02-14T00:07:00.000-05:00I just don't see it the same way as you do, dear R...I just don't see it the same way as you do, dear Rosemary, but nothing will ever change that you are indeed one of my dearest blog friends.<BR/><BR/>Have a fantastic weekend, and hopefully you feel well enough to celebrate St. Valentine's Day with your husband ;)Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02645484704486562810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-86698840428163747492009-02-13T20:26:00.000-05:002009-02-13T20:26:00.000-05:00Mimi, WADR (with all due respect:-), and I am sinc...Mimi, WADR (with all due respect:-), and I am sincere about that, it is indeed a Democratic plan being shoved down the Republicans' throat. Not ONE Republican voted for the bill!! Only three in the Senate!<BR/>Neither party gave millions of dollars to Wall Street executives. Both parties, a truly bi-partisan effort, gave millions to American banks because of the frozen credit markets. The Rosemary https://www.blogger.com/profile/16692521812525901895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-46643800776780112342009-02-13T18:17:00.000-05:002009-02-13T18:17:00.000-05:00Well, while I agree that the UAW is solidly Democr...Well, while I agree that the UAW is solidly Democratic, I don't agree that the ownership of the Auto industry is solidly Democratic, in fact I'd be surprised if they were even marginally or tepidly Democratic. <BR/><BR/>And, absolutely, I consider you one of my dearest blog friends, and I certainly hope that the way that I approach politics doesn't color your opinion at all.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02645484704486562810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-26919436342642902732009-02-13T15:09:00.000-05:002009-02-13T15:09:00.000-05:00Lord God, I hope we all can for if we don't remain...Lord God, I hope we all can for if we don't remain close and holy friends, we'll not get anywhere!<BR/>If you are getting cranky, I suppose we all are. I called my two Senators and my Rep. on this issue this morning. From the get go, Evan Bayh's phone message machine said that it was FULL. Period. My husband called... FULL. The Republican Senator's office was still taking messages ...the Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16435648614640602623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-22348619739484433572009-02-13T14:30:00.000-05:002009-02-13T14:30:00.000-05:00Mimi, I love to argue politics...I hope this wasn'...Mimi, I love to argue politics...I hope this wasn't sounding personal. There's nothing to forgive you for, but please forgive me if I'm getting cranky.<BR/><BR/>Suzanne, I completely agree. This committee to analyze the comparative effectiveness of treatments is all about getting used to the idea of rationing health care. And it has absolutely NOTHING to do with stimulating the economy. It's Rosemary https://www.blogger.com/profile/16692521812525901895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-88470774126696429012009-02-13T07:05:00.000-05:002009-02-13T07:05:00.000-05:00Oh, my gosh ladies...no matter what else you think...Oh, my gosh ladies...no matter what else you think, this Stimulus Bill needs to go out the door the way it is...forget anything else except that it threatens euthanasia, the elderly, and opens the door to Nat'l Health Care...I don't know about you, but I'm not interested in the government watching my every medical move..its none of their business and what I don't understand is why any of us good Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16435648614640602623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-82675022631376476312009-02-12T21:58:00.000-05:002009-02-12T21:58:00.000-05:00Well, I'd consider the entire auto bailout and the...Well, I'd consider the entire auto bailout and the money that went to the banks and AIG (and I bang my head on the desk, because my life insurance is with them) in that list.<BR/><BR/>But, be that as it may, I don't want to argue it, nor do I want to make it into an "us" and "them". You were venting and I got into the middle of it.<BR/><BR/>Forgive me, my friend.<BR/><BR/>And, may I add, that I *Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02645484704486562810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-43672969615913577932009-02-12T20:44:00.000-05:002009-02-12T20:44:00.000-05:00Mimi, I am not aware of a single "pet project" of ...Mimi, I am not aware of a single "pet project" of republicans in this "stimulus plan" or in the TARP. Can you think of an example? In contrast, Obama's plan is chock full of democratic pork. It's a disgrace. Pure, ugly political maneuvering.Rosemary https://www.blogger.com/profile/16692521812525901895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-4208044660495252212009-02-12T20:31:00.000-05:002009-02-12T20:31:00.000-05:00No, I mean that the Republicans seem to be able to...No, I mean that the Republicans seem to be able to put their pet projects in the plan, and I am also including the previous plan, as I think that both plans were an amalgram of programs that like Kate said, some are good ideas and systemic infrastructure (which I support) and some are just throwing money around at projects, which I do not.<BR/><BR/>And, I also think that a lot of the Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02645484704486562810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-69496343223688582852009-02-12T18:53:00.000-05:002009-02-12T18:53:00.000-05:00Mimi, what, all three republicans who voted for it...Mimi, <BR/>what, all three republicans who voted for it?-- total from both houses? This is a bill that is solely coming from the democrats with three republican turncoats-- unless something happened today that I haven't heard yet. <BR/>I see your point about the interest on loans. But I think it would never happen that ALL loans would be paid off. Maybe just enough to get some cash flowing Rosemary https://www.blogger.com/profile/16692521812525901895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-18927459358926999582009-02-12T16:49:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:49:00.000-05:00(oh, and I think that both parties are doing a fi...(oh, and I think that both parties are doing a fine job of sneaking stuff into the bills)Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02645484704486562810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-75447433310203275762009-02-12T16:48:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:48:00.000-05:00I'm not a huge economics expert (I do work in real...I'm not a huge economics expert (I do work in real estate, but not on the finance side of it), but I think that the banks rely on the interest from the loans as income, so if everyone paid off their loans, then there wouldn't be interest income pumping into the system.<BR/><BR/>But, I definitely agree that if more Americans were doing the "right thing" with their money, AND if the banks were Mimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02645484704486562810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-58448537581478256642009-02-12T16:22:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:22:00.000-05:00But Kate, paying off debts and putting money in sa...But Kate, paying off debts and putting money in savings would give the banks more capital for lending to businesses, right? And isn't that also part of the problem? Isn't the heart of the problem the bad mortgages and the securities backed by them? Plus, let's face it. If most Americans did the "right thing" with their money we wouldn't be in this mess. I think we could count on the Rosemary https://www.blogger.com/profile/16692521812525901895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-49340442133896126422009-02-12T16:11:00.000-05:002009-02-12T16:11:00.000-05:00I agree word for word with Kate. The macroeconomi...I agree word for word with Kate. The macroeconomics wouldn't work because they need it to infuse money into the system, which paying off our mortgages, etc wouldn't do (assuming we were all prudent with the monies)<BR/><BR/>And, I love her idea for blocks of the stimulus bill. There are parts I wholeheartedly agree with, and parts that I wholeheartedly disagree with, and it'd be nice to focus onMimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02645484704486562810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-1482673518773178422009-02-12T15:30:00.000-05:002009-02-12T15:30:00.000-05:00Part of the reason they won't just give the money ...Part of the reason they won't just give the money to us is because they are afraid we'll do the wrong thing with it...because the 'right thing' from a macro perspective would be to spend every last penny, preferably on credit-based purchases like cars and houses, whereas many of us would rather do the right thing from a personal perspective, which is pay off debts and build emergency savings. Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03787892622804373968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-78463793255693440212009-02-12T14:27:00.000-05:002009-02-12T14:27:00.000-05:00It's making me nauseous, Sarah, especially all thi...It's making me nauseous, Sarah, especially all this extra controversial stuff that they're sneaking in without debate. The only bright side? The democrats are showing their true colors. (Sorry all you democrats out there.)<BR/>I love the reasoning,"Well we have to do SOMETHING!"<BR/><BR/>Oh. OK. We have to do something. Well, let's spend a trillion dollars. That's something. DOES IT MATTERRosemary https://www.blogger.com/profile/16692521812525901895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30542903.post-89778240870691569102009-02-12T14:14:00.000-05:002009-02-12T14:14:00.000-05:00I want everyone to calm down and think. I don't b...I want everyone to calm down and think. I don't believe anyone in the gov't is thinking about us out here at all; they're too concerned with keeping their jobs and paychecks. The obnoxious and unnecessary stuff packed into this stimulus is giving me the twitches!Sarah - Kalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17877449375576975508noreply@blogger.com